These are ok. Mine vary slightly in length, but none was actually 8.5 most of them were around 8.25 When you open them up and put things in them, because of the design, it's more like 8 even. The canvas is ok quality and not very thick, but adequate for the price. The biggest concern is the zipper pull. It's pretty small and looks a bit on the flimsy side, will have to wait and see how they hold up over time. These aren't as heavy or rugged feeling as a couple of the others I've had, but they're also 1/3rd the price, so I can't complain too much.Overall, I think these are a good value. If you aren't too rough with them, they should hold up for a while.
Rating: [5 of 5 Stars!]